Preface
The Scientific Method of Queer Discovery
Posted originally on the Archive of Our Own at https://archiveofourown.org/works/81790461.
- Rating:
- Mature
- Archive Warning:
- No Archive Warnings Apply
- Category:
- M/M
- Fandoms:
- Game Changers Series - Rachel Reid, Heated Rivalry (TV)
- Relationships:
- Shane Hollander/Ilya Rozanov, Brad Hammersmith/Sebbin
- Characters:
- Cliff Marlow | Cliff Marleau, Ilya Rozanov, Shane Hollander, Sebbin (Heated Rivalry), Brad Hammersmith, Connors (Heated Rivalry), Ryan Carmichael, Victor St. Simon, Boston Bears | Boston Raiders Team Ensemble (Game Changers)
- Additional Tags:
- No Angst, Crack Treated Seriously, Crack, Boston Bears | Boston Raiders (Game Changers), Supportive Boston Bears | Boston Raiders (Game Changers), Married Shane Hollander/Ilya Rozanov, The Boston Bears Share One Brain Cell, No Beta We Live like Ilya, Humor, Dumb Hockey Boys, Post-Book 6: The Long Game (Game Changers), Post-Canon, Ilya Rozanov is a Little Shit, Texting Fic, Group Chats, POV Cliff Marlow | Cliff Marleau
- Language:
- English
- Series:
- Part 12 of Just Game Changer things that my brain needs to write, Part 7 of Hammer/Sebbin is my close personal headcanon
- Collections:
- *Heated rivalry melts my heart*
- Stats:
- Published: 2026-03-24 Words: 1,616 Chapters: 1/1
The Scientific Method of Queer Discovery
Summary
Hypothesis: Marlow could be queer.
Method: Exposure to research materials provided by Seb.
Peer Review: Conducted by the group chat.
Results: See findings inside.
Spoiler: He's not.
Notes
I'm back with a Boston Boys texting fic! Fyi this is pure crack and moves the plot nowhere, except to tell you nothing, but it should be fun? Enjoy!
P.S. Recommended reading is almost all of Hammer/Sebbin is my close personal headcanon, there are lots of recurring themes that can be read either before or after this fic :)
The Scientific Method of Queer Discovery
- Marlow
- so i've been watching lots of gay porn right?
- Seb
- you liked the stuff i sent you?
- Marlow
- i can't exactly say i liked it
- Carmy
- did you at least try skipping to the good parts
- Marlow
- what are the good parts
- Seb
- the parts where they're gay man
- Hammer
- why are you sending marly gay porn?
- Viggy
- you jealous hammy?
- Hammer
- fuck off
- i meant atleast send the man threesomes or something to start
- Roz
- marly has been in threesomes already
- sebby has right idea
- Connors
- seb did the same to me tho
- man has some weird taste lol
- Hammer
- i'll send you some other shit
- Carmy
- send them to me too
- also @Marlow don't worry if you didn't like seb's porn man
- you might still like hammer's
- he has better taste
- Seb
- no he doesn't
- guess whose videos we try
- Roz
- you try both?
- Hammer
- yep
- Seb
- yep
- but mine are still better
- right hammy?
- Hammer
- sure
- Connors
- cough whipped cough
- Hammer
- 🖕
- Hollzy
- is no one going to ask why marlow is watching gay porn?
- Seb
- no porn shaming here
- Viggy
- do you not watch porn hollzy
- Connors
- i thought gay dudes liked gay porn
- Roz
- shane does not need porn when i am the one fucking him
- Marlow
- i would actually believe hollzy is a virgin if he wasn't married to you
- Hollzy
- all of you can fuck right off
- i'm not a virgin and i watch porn
- Carmy
- does that mean you still get hard if you watch women 🤔
- Hollzy
- i'm not answering that
- Hammer
- we know you're not a virgin hollzy
- Seb
- marly is just trying to figure out if he's bi or pan or whatever else
- Carmy
- btw turns out i'm pan
- no thanks to seb
- gwen is fucking awesome
- Roz
- YAYYY
- Viggy
- happy for you carms
- getting back in the game after what's her name left you in ibiza
- Carmy
- you didn't have to bring that up
- but thanks
- Marlow
- carmy my man!
- same gwen who's dalton's sister?
- where is my thank you for giving her your number
- Carmy
- thank you marly
- Connors
- damn dude
- there's only one con
- Carmy
- no what she's perfect
- Seb
- fuck you for shitting on my porn
- but also carmyyyyyy welcome to the pan club
- we cook dude
- want to come to sunday brunch with me and hammy's ma?
- Carmy
- as long as i don't have to cook
- Hammer
- that's cool carmy
- they cook enough for an army
- just go hungry
- Hollzy
- happy for you carmichael
- uh sebbin and hammer's mom do brunch?
- Roz
- hammer's mother is amazing cook
- can we also come?
- Seb
- yesssss
- we miss you rozy
- Roz
- booking flight now
- Hollzy
- ilya!
- we're in the middle of the fucking playoffs rn
- but thanks for the invite sebbin
- Roz
- oh yes we will come after we win cup
- what is con @Connors
- Connors
- con is carmy would be related to dalton if he goes serious with the lady
- and we're all related to carmy
- so we'll end up related to fucking dalton
- Hammer
- hart said dalton's an okay dude
- Seb
- seemed ok when we met him too
- tho i think he might have a receding hairline soon
- Viggy
- why would you think that
- Roz
- i am surprised you remember sebby
- you were very drunk on tequila sunrise
- also yuck to being related to dalton
- is like being related to pike
- Hollzy
- you like hayden
- don't pretend you don't
- but i agree with sebbin about the receding hairline
- Roz
- yes is obvious
- sad for bikini girl
- but i like jackie and children not pike
- tho maybe pike is better than dalton
- Hollzy
- i'm telling hayd!
- Roz
- eh
- Marlow
- anywayyyy i thought dalton was a little squeamish
- was almost ready to run from roz until hollzy took roz back
- Hollzy
- ilya was asking if his sister is single
- and ilya is famously married to me
- Connors
- we know lol
- Hollzy
- i meant ilya didn't even clarify he was asking for carmy
- so i don't blame dalton for being icked
- Roz
- did not think about that
- i will tell him i would never cheat on my husband
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- Rozanov
- i would never cheat on my husband
- Dalton
- hi to you too
- and good for hollander
- why are you telling me this
- Rozanov
- yes hi
- shane thinks you think i asked if your sister is single for me
- i did not
- was for carmy
- Dalton
- good to know you have marital fidelity i guess
- who's carmy?
- Rozanov
- what are these words
- stupid language
- Dalton
- just meant that it's good you're faithful?
- Rozanov
- like dog?
- Dalton
- what no it's a compliment
- Rozanov
- ok bye
- Dalton
- wait who's carmy and why does he need to know if my sister is single
- rozanov?
- ROZANOV YOU FUCKER TELL ME
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- Roz
- i texted dalton
- said he is happy for shane that i am like faithful dog
- Hollzy
- i love you too?
- Viggy
- i mean dude also brought his sister to all stars
- so props?
- might not be happy about you tho carmy
- Roz
- *attached screenshot of dalton asking who carmy is*
- Carmy
- suck it
- you know you love me
- he will too
- eventually
- Marlow
- ohohoh
- @Carmy can you ask gwen why dalton got traded
- Carmy
- i'm not asking her that
- we've only been out twice
- Connors
- so ask on the third date
- Roz
- ask if it was because of dildo socks
- should i ask him myself
- Viggy
- no let carmy find out first
- or we'll never know if it's true
- Hollzy
- that's not why you shouldn't
- but if it stops you
- Marlow
- @Carmy this is an opportunity to solve a real mystery
- Carmy
- i don't know
- Marlow
- PLEASEEEEEE
- Roz
- come on carmy
- Carmy
- fine
- Hollzy
- you shouldn't feel forced to ask if you don't want to @Carmy
- Seb
- no what are you doing @Hollzy
- let the man find out
- Roz
- don't be party pooper hollander
- Hollzy
- don't be an asshole ilya
- Seb
- you two are so cute
- but flirt off the group chat
- Connors
- lol what have you and hammer been doing in here for the last decade then
- Hammer
- do you not know what flirting is
- we don't do it in here
- Carmy
- wtf have we all been seeing then
- Viggy
- we've seen them suck each other off in person instead
- Seb
- this ☝️
- Roz
- sebby and hammy you have to show hollander your chats
- he needs examples of good sexting
- Hollzy
- i'm not going to read their private messages
- Hammer
- not sure how useful they'll be anyway
- Seb
- we don't sext
- Marlow
- why not
- Seb
- we live together and room on roadies
- we're together all the time
- Hammer
- when would we have time to sext
- Viggy
- also why would hollzy need to sext
- you live together now
- Connors
- aren't you two together right now
- Roz
- *attached selfie of ilya and shane on the couch*
- he is reading chat on my phone
- Carmy
- what happened to hollzy's phone
- Roz
- he puts low brightness and can't read anything
- Hollzy
- high brightness is bad for your eyes
- Connors
- lol isn't it harmful even if you read on roz's phone
- Carmy
- 😂
- Hollzy
- shut up i'm not reading on his phone
- he has to make a brand post soon
- i'm making sure he doesn't add his own comments to the pr approved one
- Viggy
- fair i have to do that with connors too
- i talk more to his rep than he does
- Connors
- no you don't
- Viggy
- when was your last text with him
- mine was yesterday after you fucked up that energy drink post
- Carmy
- what did he do
- Viggy
- copied the text twice
- Marlow
- 😂
- can we go back to my porn problem
- Roz
- what is problem
- Connors
- go jerk off man
- problem solved
- Marlow
- i can't
- that's the problem
- hammy's stuff is not doing anything for me either :(
- Hollzy
- feels like you're trying to make yourself gay?
- i don't think it works like that
- Roz
- don't worry Моя любовь
- no one will ever be as super gay as you
- Hollzy
- you're an asshole
- i'm a normal amount of gay
- but marlow does not seem to be
- Roz
- are you being homophobic hollander
- Hollzy
- I'M NOT
- Marlow
- hollzy might be right
- Hollzy
- see?
- Marlow
- i thought i'd give it a try
- i'm just regular straight i guess
- Seb
- sorry marly
- i can send you some regular porn if you want
- Marlow
- no thanks
- i've seen the regular porn you see dude
- Hammer
- why did you think his taste in gay stuff would be different
- Connors
- idk dude
- i did the same thing
- i knew and still asked seb
- Carmy
- me too
- Marlow
- do you all think the porn i see is weird too?
- Roz
- not weird
- hollander liked the countdown one you sent marly
- Hollzy
- uh yeah it was fine
- Roz
- fine?
- you came like fire bomb
- Hollzy
- so did you
- Connors
- not a competition
- you both have weird taste
- Carmy
- marly's is less weird imo
- Seb
- fuck off see if i help any of you again
- Viggy
- no one's left to ask you seb
- you've successfully made us all see it
- Roz
- don't worry i like your porn sebby
- is good
- Hammer
- i like it too
- Connors
- we know lol
- Seb
- ok i only like hammy and rozy now
- maybe also hollzy
- let me send you some
- Hollzy
- um you don't need to
- i'm sure your taste is fine
- Seb
- *link*
- *link*
- Viggy
- too late
- Seb
- *link*
- *link*
- *link*
- Hammer
- i took his phone away but these are actually good hollzy
- Roz
- hollander likes them a lot
- bye i need to fuck him now
Afterword
End Notes
Unfortunately for Marlow, he's straight af, even though he doesn't want to be.
> Maybe he should try it too. Roz would tease the absolute fuck out of him if he asked for help, but Seb would probably help him out. Seb would even wingman for him. Hammer couldn’t be trusted with a secret like that. He’d blab to someone on the team the minute he got a beer in him. But Seb? Seb would be a good sport about it.
This excerpt is from an earlier fic Schrödinger's cat. I didn’t even realise it until I finished this fic and went back to check inconsistencies, but I had already set up Marly getting ready to ask Seb, even though the thought was a few years before this fic. fuck I’m getting good at this!
Also, Seb’s POV fic is done. It’s more of a character study because I needed to understand his character, and hopefully, you will know Seb a little better too when you read the fic. I was in the middle of editing it when this whole thing happened, so it’ll be up maybe tomorrow. It’s just so cute, and Seb's story is going where he wants lol, not where I thought it would go, but he surprised me in a good way? We’ll find out how you all like it soon enough.
Thank you all for staying with me while I figure out Seb and Hammer's love life <3 I'm loving the fact that I'm writing more again, haven't written like this in a decade, and I'm excited to see how far I'll take it.
Meanwhile, I wrote this utterly ridiculous Buzzfeed style quiz that was an unexpected hit if you want to see it: This Quiz Will Reveal Whether You Are Hollander Or Rozanov Deep In Your Soul
Anywayyy, hope you liked this fic, and let me know what you think! :)
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